....Gypsy....I hold a total of 449 gallons in 4 vehicles or $1059.19 worth of fuel if I fill them up all at the same time[$2.359]....[I just don't pay my employees for a week!] I shift fuel from one tank to another and from vehicle to vehicle....I try to buy as much fuel at as a cheap a price as possible whenever I get the chance....I add a little heating oil at $1.75 a gallon now and then as well as pump out some of the surplus fuel from the Army vehicles that come in with fuel in them.....we treat all our fuel with PowerService conditioner in the white bottle.....so far so good and we are looking in to re-refined oils from a supplier in Kentucky....for both "heating and off road fuels".....Bio is an option that Lykin's Oil has available and there are several others....I spend a little time each week on the fuel issue so it does pay dividends.....speaking of dividends....my 9600 shares of ExxonMobile is more than $60.00 a share on Friday.....huummm.....geofkaye

...._one_ other_ thing_....I have electricity if the power goes out....for more than a week+ in my house and there is the issue of heat and A/C also....[course my neighbors will be scratching at the doors.-the same ones that took me to court last Tuesday]....or I can just stay in the trailer for two weeks and be warm or cold-just NO cable tv and NO computer....might have to learn how to read books again [or run a rather large bill with the girlz].........geofkaye

Gary, my main reason for changing tanks is the original tanks will eat up all my basement storage. I don't want to hang out past the rear axle more than 6', so it's going to be a little tight under there.

And since I'll be changing a lot of the original factors the engineers used when they designed these trucks, I explore what effects changes will have. I'm shooting for a 25,000 lb conversion compared to the 80k the truck was designed for. There is a good chance I'll also be removing up to 600 lbs from the rear by changing out the duals for super singles. To be honest, I'm considering changing my mind on using aluminium for the RV frame because I'm worried I might not have enough weight to soften the suspension. IE. the whole ping tank problem that started this thread.

And FWIW, I think a poly tank would be a better solution for fresh/gray water anyway. It can be formed to use space that otherwise might not be useful. I'm hoping the numbers work out to fit a pair of 120s behind the rear axle, partially pushed up between the frame rails. There's no way you're going to put potable water in a used fuel tank, I'd even be hesitant to use a new one if I wasn't sure I could get it clean. And if you use it for gray it's going to be a pain to dump unless you move your toilet and black tank near it.

-lee

....potable water in a aluminum tank will be a problem....TASTE....but if you were to line it with a plastic bladder maybe you won't have that problem/or maybe you are just switching it to another problem....also there is the freezing issue. I drink only bottled water when I'm camping....I had travelers diarrhea in Fla. one year for the whole Christmas vacation because of bad water in the water system on the island-I was told!....Also! Liquid has a movement issue you also have to take into consideration....sloshing can cause loss of control if far away from the axel and/or will act as a counter weight....Ever drive a tanker?....or a sewage truck half full?....interesting!....There are fiberglass tanks made currently-I don't know the manufactures name- that make fuel tanks for off road equipment that are not standard shapes and fuel tanks for boats that are different sizes and shapes[TEMPO] available from any marine dealer....just a few options/suggestions off the top of my head...HTH....geofkaye

BIG 10-4 on the sloshing liquid issue. Ever seen a milk truck when it stops? These tanks have NO baffles in them, or else they would have a load(like 6000 gallons)of partially-churned butter when arriving at the milk plant. When the truck pulls into our dairy farm to pick up the milk, even with the maxi's set the truck "rocks" back and forth for a few minutes. Probably not as scarey with 100 or so gallons, but I'm sure still a force to be reckoned with.
Just my .02.
Gary

Hello Trowe....If you want to Tame the Air Suspension on your Truck contact : Don Yale at Donvel...Web: http://www.donvel.com....He help Tame my Peterbilt....He works mostly with class 7/8 Trucks, but he also does some MDT's.....Great person to deal with and very conscientious.....He is located in Gladewater,Tx......Don's system works and it does not change the original Suspension Parts...He can help you with the Front Steer Axles, Cab Air, Rear Air Suspension and Air Ride Seats......Hope this Info Helps.......Jim

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Originally posted by jauth1:
Hello Trowe....If you want to Tame the Air Suspension on your Truck contact : Don Yale at Donvel...Web: http://www.donvel.com help Tame my Peterbilt....He works mostly with class 7/8 Trucks, but he also does some MDT's.....Great person to deal with and very conscientious.....He is located in Gladewater,Tx......Don's system works and it does not change the original Suspension Parts...He can help you with the Front Steer Axles, Cab Air, Rear Air Suspension and Air Ride Seats......Hope this Info Helps.......Jim

Now we can link to Donvel....(I didn't think you would mind).

Thank you Gary. I had heard of Donvel in relation to front suspension but didn't know how to contact them. Thanks for the info. I'm going to Texas for the winter so I'll contact them while I'm down there.

thom

Hey man, thank "jauth 1" one notch above. I just edited out the accidental "tail" that got stuck on the end of the address as he posted it. Glad to help, though. I hope you get all the info you need on air suspension foibles. I found the site rather interesting myself....

I just had the Donvel Air System installed at his shop 2 weeks ago.....I am a Happy Camper...It does Tame the Truck Ride....It will Never Ride like a Caddy...But it is not bucking me out of the seat when we hit a big dip ,railroad crossing or going over a bridge.....Big Improvement....A very Conscientius and honest person to work with....If you are not happy simply return and he will refund your money......We did a before and after test on a road by his shop...so you can tell the improvement right off the bat.....We also added Motion Controls on the Cab Air and the Rear Air bags of my Class6 Peterbilt.........Jim....Ps.Thanks for fixing the Post.......